West v Eagles July 20 Hisense stadium

League 2.10 pm 
Seconds 11.30 pm 
Injury list 

Sam Nicholls	Shoulder	2-3 weeks
Zane Williams	Hand	Available
Bailey Hann	Illness	Available
Will Pearce	Ankle	Test
Patrick Weckert	Quad	1-2 weeks
Seb Menta	Ankle	Available
Josh Capogreco	Shin	Available
Patrick Toole	Ankle	TBC
David Brinker-Ritchie	Knee	Indefinite
Daniel Sladojevic	Back	Indefinite

Well, quite a few potential changes. Time will tell. If a previous post was correct, the Bruce is returning to the farm next year, then why put him up for a league spot?
I like his toughness and enthusiasm, but....

whybother wrote:Well, quite a few potential changes. Time will tell. If a previous post was correct, the Bruce is returning to the farm next year, then why put him up for a league spot?
I like his toughness and enthusiasm, but....

Yeah well Redden is being rested so hopefully Lukac plays 
Cooke up forward another bonus

The teams 

EAGLES
League
F: Beattie, Menzel, Goldsworthy
HF: McKay, Cooke, Buck
C: McFarlane, Rowe, Rowland
HB: Morris, Moore, Sinor
B: Litster, Thompson, Fleeton
 
R: Ballenden, D’Aloia, Knight
INT: Wheare, Williams, Bruce, Hansen, Neumann, Herbert, Lukac
IN: Bruce, Cooke, Hansen, Lukac, Neumann, Williams
OUT: Firns (overseas), Redden (managed), West
NEW: Blake Hansen (Port District)
 
Reserves
F: Pearce, Boyd, Mair
HF: Barkla, Blair, Jackson
C: Davey, Mawson, McGrath
HB: Andrews, Ueding, Wollogorang
B: Tilbrook, Dawkins, Angove
R: Hansen, Hann, Fairall
INT: Niemann, Norman, Charles, Watson
Under-18
F: Russell-Swansson, Gray, Peucker
HF: Sumner, West, Ebert
C: Edwards, Phillipou, Sands
HB: Dodd, Kilpatrick, Cook
B: Hankins, Delmenico, Pearce
R: Luck, Hasting, Schwarz
INT: Chalubek, Farrugia, Hawker, Lucas, Parisi, Stockman
Under-16
F: Maddern, Menta, Zerella
HF: Scheuffele, Marshall-Bates, Holdsworth
C: Southwood, Leys, Stokes
HB: Rowe, Harris, Buckskin
B: Trotter, Grieger, Madigan
R: Marks, Szklarz, Wolthers
INT: Adam, Bigg, Carey, Clay, Dohnt, J. Lucas, White, Watson

Hansen Named in the 2's as well. Lukacs to ruck I suppose. Wheare hasnt done much like we expected him to do.

Goddsy11 wrote:Hansen Named in the 2's as well. Lukacs to ruck I suppose. Wheare hasnt done much like we expected him to do.

What about Troy Menzel? Keeps getting picked.
Good to see Zane back. Was starting to show good form before injury.
What’s the story with Firns overseas? Is he trying out with Man U?
BTW what a fall from grace by Jay Watson - from budding league player to Reserves 4th interchange?

I think they persist with Wheare after his couple of goals in the last quarter last week. Herbert definitely plays.

Lukac in for Redden.
Cooke in for West.
Williams in for Firns.

Bruce is the most obvious like for like replacement for Firns, but we could do with more running power and our defence is already stacked with big bodies to cover Firns absence.

Must win!

Goddsy11 wrote:Hansen Named in the 2's as well. Lukacs to ruck I suppose. Wheare hasnt done much like we expected him to do.

I think you may find G Hansen in the seconds Blake Hansen in the league 
G Hansen under 18s player

Goddsy11 wrote:Hansen Named in the 2's as well. Lukacs to ruck I suppose. Wheare hasnt done much like we expected him to do.

I think you will find that "Hansen" are two different players.
Hansen in the reserves is the ruckman from the U18s, has played a couple of reserves games.

Headfan wrote:

Goddsy11 wrote:Hansen Named in the 2's as well. Lukacs to ruck I suppose. Wheare hasnt done much like we expected him to do.

What about Troy Menzel?  Keeps getting picked.
Good to see Zane back. Was starting to show good form before injury.
What’s the story with Firns overseas?  Is he trying out with Man U?
BTW what a fall from grace by Jay Watson - from budding league player to Reserves 4th interchange?

Think Firns is O/S at a wedding, and a bit later on in the season I think D'Aloia falls to the same fate.

If its D'Aloia I hope it is his to a local girl and comes back, tied to the state and the Eagles

whybother wrote:If its D'Aloia I hope it is his to a local girl and comes back, tied to the state and the Eagles

Sister's wedding.

Wimpy or anyone, what do you think has happened to our fluent high scoring attacking match game of the first 5 matches. We can't score a goal at the moment.

I think in part that other sides have worked Reddern out. At times he seems like a "one trick pony", just dropping the ball at his feet, and our mids are not taking ball away.

whybother wrote:I think in part that other sides have worked Reddern out. At times he seems like a "one trick pony", just dropping the ball at his feet, and our mids are not taking ball away.

True and us out in the outer keep saying punch the ball .

[quote="wimpy"]

Headfan wrote:

Goddsy11 wrote:Hansen Named in the 2's as well. Lukacs to ruck I suppose. Wheare hasnt done much like we expected him to do.

What about Troy Menzel?  Keeps getting picked.
Good to see Zane back. Was starting to show good form before injury.
What’s the story with Firns overseas?  Is he trying out with Man U?
BTW what a fall from grace by Jay Watson - from budding league player to Reserves 4th interchange?

Think Firns is O/S at a wedding, and a bit later on in the season I think D'Aloia falls to the same fate. Firns for 2 weeks and Adam doesn't miss any games as I've asked a board member here at wheelchair footy.

Goddsy11 wrote:Wimpy or anyone, what do you think has happened to our fluent high scoring attacking match game of the first 5 matches. We can't score a goal at the moment.

Three words - no Luke Beecken

Titan2 wrote:

Goddsy11 wrote:Wimpy or anyone, what do you think has happened to our fluent high scoring attacking match game of the first 5 matches. We can't score a goal at the moment.

Three words - no Luke Beecken

To further expand - his run and carry together with long pinpoint passing was absolutely critical for our structure and to get it to our forwards. To a lesser extent Morris was and continues to do this but his disposal probably isn't as tidy and he doesn't gather as many possessions as Beecken was. If you look at our backline - Thompson, Firns, Litster, Rowland, Moore - none of them are run and carry players and their kicking, while not necessarily inaccurate, is slow and has too much air.

Then you go further up the field - Rowe is a pretty good kick but not a run and carry player and does mostly short kicks. Sinor and D'Aloia are more 'in and under players' but their kicking is also slow and short. Williams can go long but is unreliable and sprays his kicks. Knights and McKay are good long kicks but both have been badly out of form for a while and not getting enough of the ball. Similarly Beattie has been a non-entity.

With all that it makes it very hard for any player in our forward line to get the fast and accurate delivery they require when they break free on a lead and then the easy shot at goal. Instead, we are relying on them to make something when the ball is bombed in. This is why the goals have dried up.

Just got some news from a forum member 
Herbert is out and Watson has the flu, and B. Hansen will be in if required to

[quote="whybother"]I think in part that other sides have worked Reddern out. At times he seems like a "one trick pony", just dropping the ball at his feet, and our mids are not taking ball away.[/quote]

I smile at the above comment - unfair criticism of Redden. Surely. if the opposition midfielders are reading the ball off Redden's hands, are our midfielders incapable of doing the same and getting at least 50% of his "readable taps" and all of the other 25% plus of his non-readable taps? No! Blame our midfielders. Our system and talent around the centrebounces is such that we rarely gather and attack out the front of the centre throwups instead coming out sideways or backwards (contrast in recent weeks against Sturt and Glenelg)

There's a lot of work to be done !

Yes Premiers: but you have specified the indictment of our whole midfield setup.Maybe Redden (or rucks) can just whack the ball forward towards our goal, and have the mids run onto it.

whybother wrote:Yes Premiers: but you have specified the indictment of our whole midfield setup.Maybe Redden (or rucks) can just whack the ball forward towards our goal, and have the mids run onto it.

Exactly do it differently sometimes

Methinks that the weather is going to play a great role in tomorrows game

[quote="Mickyj"]Just got some news from a forum member 
Herbert is out and Watson has the flu, and B. Hansen will be in if required to.
I'm the member who asked the ceo re tomorrow's team. He said no secrets when said I'm probably not meant to know. He said G. Hansen is in reserves and he thought same as Niemann and yes it's confirmed that the Hansen's aren't related to each other as i ashed the ceo which i didn't think they were. I was at wheelchair footy when we were talking about tomorrow.