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Post by Mickyj Mon Sep 28, 2020 5:30 pm

League Adelaide oval 3.15
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Under 18s Thebarton oval 11.00

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Post by Mickyj Tue Sep 29, 2020 6:48 am

Injury list after round 14


Chris Hall *
Shoulder
TBC
Aron Asfaha + *
Leg
Season
Tom Gray +
Ankle
Indefinite
Zane Williams
Wrist
Test
Jesse Lonergan
Calf
Test
Matthew Goldsworthy
Glute
Test
Jack Hayes
Ankle
Available
Lachlan Jones
Ankle
Test
Rhyan Mansell
Achilles
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Post by Goddsy11 Tue Sep 29, 2020 10:29 am

Rhyan Mansell
Achilles
Test


That's an interesting one. They are usually season type things.
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Post by Deorn Tue Sep 29, 2020 10:53 am

goddy11 wrote:Rhyan Mansell
Achilles
Test


That's an interesting one. They are usually season type things.
Rhyan reckons he could have played last week but they have given it another weeks rest. He says that it is only infamation and should be OK but you would not want to snap an achilles because that would be it for at least a year. Great recruit who would be valuable if fit
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Post by Mickyj Tue Sep 29, 2020 3:11 pm

Deorn wrote:
goddy11 wrote:Rhyan Mansell
Achilles
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That's an interesting one. They are usually season type things.
Rhyan reckons he could have played last week but they have given it another weeks rest. He says that it is only infamation and should be OK but you would not want to snap an achilles because that would be it for at least a year. Great  recruit who would be valuable if fit

I think that game meant nothing and we needed to rest some players
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Post by Mickyj Tue Sep 29, 2020 3:29 pm

Got my ticket go Eagles
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Post by eaglesman Tue Sep 29, 2020 6:44 pm

It looks like it is going to be very wet on Sunday, unfortunately.
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Post by spell_check Wed Sep 30, 2020 10:33 pm

How will the game plan go in the wet? There's only been one day where's been rain during the match, and the game was over by then (Glenelg).

We have the most handballs on average in the competition, and I can't see there being as many handballs in the wet in a finals match.
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Post by Deorn Wed Sep 30, 2020 11:10 pm

spell_check wrote:How will the game plan go in the wet?  There's only been one day where's been rain during the match, and the game was over by then (Glenelg).

We have the most handballs on average in the competition, and I can't see there being as many handballs in the wet in a finals match.

Might force players to actually kick the ball instead of being handball happy
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Post by spell_check Wed Sep 30, 2020 11:32 pm

Deorn wrote:
spell_check wrote:How will the game plan go in the wet?  There's only been one day where's been rain during the match, and the game was over by then (Glenelg).

We have the most handballs on average in the competition, and I can't see there being as many handballs in the wet in a finals match.

Might force players to actually kick the ball instead of being handball happy

It's the classic case of plan 'b', and how well the team adapts, is going to be the case this week.

This is a list of players finals experience, that has played either a reserves or league match this year (grand finals in brackets):
Comitiogianni: 2
Firns: 4
Giuffreda: 18 (2011, 2015, 2016)
Goldsworthy: 18 (2011, 2015, 2016)
Hall: 16 (2011, 2015, 2016)
J.Hayes: 5
N.Hayes: 9 (2015, 2016)
Haylock: 4
Heinjus: 1
Poole: 10 (2016)
Redden: 10 (2011, 2016)
Rowland: 6
Sharrad: 3
Sinor: 6 (2015)
Thompson: 18 (2011, 2015, 2016)
Toumpas: 3 (2011)
von Bertouch: 9 (2015, 2016)
West: 1

Obviously we can rule Hall out, and Haylock, Heinjus and Sharrad aren't likely to come into contention this week.  This leaves 14 names. 11 of those who played in that final.
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Post by Mickyj Thu Oct 01, 2020 5:15 am

spell_check wrote:
Deorn wrote:
spell_check wrote:How will the game plan go in the wet?  There's only been one day where's been rain during the match, and the game was over by then (Glenelg).

We have the most handballs on average in the competition, and I can't see there being as many handballs in the wet in a finals match.

Might force players to actually kick the ball instead of being handball happy

It's the classic case of plan 'b', and how well the team adapts, is going to be the case this week.

This is a list of players finals experience, that has played either a reserves or league match this year (grand finals in brackets):
Comitiogianni: 2
Firns: 4
Giuffreda: 18 (2011, 2015, 2016)
Goldsworthy: 18 (2011, 2015, 2016)
Hall: 16 (2011, 2015, 2016)
J.Hayes: 5
N.Hayes: 9 (2015, 2016)
Haylock: 4
Heinjus: 1
Poole: 10 (2016)
Redden: 10 (2011, 2016)
Rowland: 6
Sharrad: 3
Sinor: 6 (2015)
Thompson: 18 (2011, 2015, 2016)
Toumpas: 3 (2011)
von Bertouch: 9 (2015, 2016)
West: 1

Obviously we can rule Hall out, and Haylock, Heinjus and Sharrad aren't likely to come into contention this week.  This leaves 14 names.  11 of those who played in that final.

Let’s hope there is a plan B
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Post by wimpy Thu Oct 01, 2020 8:02 am

Eagles looked very slick and eager at training last night. Hall (of course) and Lonergan didn't train. Jack Hayes, Mansell, Jones and Goldsworthy all looked fit and very sharp.
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Post by Goddsy11 Thu Oct 01, 2020 9:30 am

spell_check wrote:
Deorn wrote:
spell_check wrote:How will the game plan go in the wet?  There's only been one day where's been rain during the match, and the game was over by then (Glenelg).

We have the most handballs on average in the competition, and I can't see there being as many handballs in the wet in a finals match.

Might force players to actually kick the ball instead of being handball happy

It's the classic case of plan 'b', and how well the team adapts, is going to be the case this week.

This is a list of players finals experience, that has played either a reserves or league match this year (grand finals in brackets):
Comitiogianni: 2
Firns: 4
Giuffreda: 18 (2011, 2015, 2016)
Goldsworthy: 18 (2011, 2015, 2016)
Hall: 16 (2011, 2015, 2016)
J.Hayes: 5
N.Hayes: 9 (2015, 2016)
Haylock: 4
Heinjus: 1
Poole: 10 (2016)
Redden: 10 (2011, 2016)
Rowland: 6
Sharrad: 3
Sinor: 6 (2015)
Thompson: 18 (2011, 2015, 2016)
Toumpas: 3 (2011)
von Bertouch: 9 (2015, 2016)
West: 1

Obviously we can rule Hall out, and Haylock, Heinjus and Sharrad aren't likely to come into contention this week.  This leaves 14 names.  11 of those who played in that final.
You have any stats on the recruits.
Lowton and Tsistas ? I think Seymour played in an Amateur's GF. Don't know about Mansell in Tassie.
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Post by Mickyj Thu Oct 01, 2020 2:35 pm

Match review

By Zac Milbank
SECOND SEMI FINAL
Woodville-West Torrens v North Adelaide | 3:15pm | Channel 7 & 7plus | 1629 SEN SA & SEN app | SANFL Digital Pass
By The Numbers
Overall Record
Played: 84
Eagles: 56
North: 28

Finals
Played: 9
Eagles: 3
North: 6

At Adelaide Oval
Played: 7
Eagles: 3
North: 4

2020 Meetings
Round 11 – Eagles 10.9 (69) d North 6.8 (44) at Maughan Thiem Kia Oval
Round 4 – Eagles 10.9 (69) d North 7.12 (54) at Prospect Oval

Last Three Finals
2018 Preliminary – North 15.10 (100) d Eagles 14.11 (95)
2013 1st Semi Final – North 15.10 (100) d Eagles 12.11 (83)
2012 Elimination Final – North 15.5 (95) d Eagles 12.15 (87)

What They Said


Key Match-Ups
Jack Hayes (Eagles) v Tanner Smith (North)
He’s been touted by opposition coaches as the one player they would love to recruit and now the Eagles’ Jack Hayes is set to show why in the major round. Extremely versatile, Hayes is an incredibly strong contested mark in attack while also being able to relieve Jarrad Redden in the ruck. Missed Round 14 with a minor ankle injury but is fully fit for the Second Semi. Smith has missed the past two games with a foot injury but will be a welcome addition to the Roosters defence. Expect him to play a major role in trying to quell Hayes’ influence.

Jordan Foote (Eagles) v Andrew Moore (North)
These two are among the best big-bodied midfielders in the competition with their sizeable influence at the stoppages. Foote has been building strong form in the second half of the season while also being a danger around the goals as evidenced by the 3.4 he kicked against Glenelg in Round 12. Moore was viewed as one of the favourites for the Magarey Medal before injuring his hamstring in Round 11. The Roosters’ joint vice-captain has since missed the past three minor round matches giving him limited preparation heading into the Second Semi Final.

Lachlan Jones (Eagles) v Lewis Hender (North)
If this match-up eventuates it could be one of the most exciting in the Second Semi Final. Hender is an extremely dangerous and unpredictable premiership forward, who can play tall or small such is his spring in the air. Once the ball hits the ground he loves to go to work on his left foot from tight angles in the pocket. Jones, one of SA’s brightest AFL Draft prospects this year, has thrived on all challenges thrown at him by coach Jade Sheedy this year. The Power Next Generation Academy prospect loves to fly high for his marks while also spoiling strongly when the time comes. And with his raking kick from defence, the 18-year-old also provides plenty of rebound for the Eagles.
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Post by spell_check Thu Oct 01, 2020 4:53 pm

goddy11 wrote:
spell_check wrote:
Deorn wrote:
spell_check wrote:How will the game plan go in the wet?  There's only been one day where's been rain during the match, and the game was over by then (Glenelg).

We have the most handballs on average in the competition, and I can't see there being as many handballs in the wet in a finals match.

Might force players to actually kick the ball instead of being handball happy

It's the classic case of plan 'b', and how well the team adapts, is going to be the case this week.

This is a list of players finals experience, that has played either a reserves or league match this year (grand finals in brackets):
Comitiogianni: 2
Firns: 4
Giuffreda: 18 (2011, 2015, 2016)
Goldsworthy: 18 (2011, 2015, 2016)
Hall: 16 (2011, 2015, 2016)
J.Hayes: 5
N.Hayes: 9 (2015, 2016)
Haylock: 4
Heinjus: 1
Poole: 10 (2016)
Redden: 10 (2011, 2016)
Rowland: 6
Sharrad: 3
Sinor: 6 (2015)
Thompson: 18 (2011, 2015, 2016)
Toumpas: 3 (2011)
von Bertouch: 9 (2015, 2016)
West: 1

Obviously we can rule Hall out, and Haylock, Heinjus and Sharrad aren't likely to come into contention this week.  This leaves 14 names.  11 of those who played in that final.
You have any stats on the recruits.
Lowton and Tsistas ? I think Seymour played in an Amateur's GF. Don't know about Mansell in Tassie.

I don't know about the interstate recruits; Tsitas has also played in the NT.

My reason for bringing this up, was I've seen and read comments about players who played in past finals matches where it has gone pear shaped.
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Post by Mickyj Thu Oct 01, 2020 5:02 pm

spell_check wrote:
goddy11 wrote:
spell_check wrote:
Deorn wrote:
spell_check wrote:How will the game plan go in the wet?  There's only been one day where's been rain during the match, and the game was over by then (Glenelg).

We have the most handballs on average in the competition, and I can't see there being as many handballs in the wet in a finals match.

Might force players to actually kick the ball instead of being handball happy

It's the classic case of plan 'b', and how well the team adapts, is going to be the case this week.

This is a list of players finals experience, that has played either a reserves or league match this year (grand finals in brackets):
Comitiogianni: 2
Firns: 4
Giuffreda: 18 (2011, 2015, 2016)
Goldsworthy: 18 (2011, 2015, 2016)
Hall: 16 (2011, 2015, 2016)
J.Hayes: 5
N.Hayes: 9 (2015, 2016)
Haylock: 4
Heinjus: 1
Poole: 10 (2016)
Redden: 10 (2011, 2016)
Rowland: 6
Sharrad: 3
Sinor: 6 (2015)
Thompson: 18 (2011, 2015, 2016)
Toumpas: 3 (2011)
von Bertouch: 9 (2015, 2016)
West: 1

Obviously we can rule Hall out, and Haylock, Heinjus and Sharrad aren't likely to come into contention this week.  This leaves 14 names.  11 of those who played in that final.
You have any stats on the recruits.
Lowton and Tsistas ? I think Seymour played in an Amateur's GF. Don't know about Mansell in Tassie.

I don't know about the interstate recruits; Tsitas has also played in the NT.

My reason for bringing this up, was I've seen and read comments about players who played in past finals matches where it has gone pear shaped.

We need to remember yes we have stuffed up GFs before different coach different game plan and some different players
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Post by Eagles35 Thu Oct 01, 2020 5:42 pm

Thought it was 3 games to qualify for reserves if so fish won't be playing and Heinjus haven't had him all season
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Post by Mickyj Thu Oct 01, 2020 6:10 pm

In: J Hayes, Mansell, Jones, Firns, Goldsworthy, Lee

Out: Hall (Pectoral), West (omit), Westbrook (Omit)

This weeks ins and outs
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Post by Mickyj Thu Oct 01, 2020 6:12 pm

EAGLES

Woofville-West Torrens is poised to take a near full-strength line-up into its Second Semi Final against North at Adelaide Oval.

Veteran wingman Chris Hall (pectoral) is out for the rest of the season but stars Jack Hayes, Lachlan Jones and Rhyan Mansell all return to the starting 18.

Experienced premiership player Matt Goldsworthy is on the extended interchange after recovering from his glute strain while Jackson Lee and Jack Firns have also been named on the extended interchange.

Ruckman Jordan West and defender Jake Westbrook were forced out to the Reserves.



F: Rowe, J. Hayes, Poole

HF: N. Hayes, Von Bertouch, Foote

C: McNeil, Toumpas, Wehr

HB: Jones, Giuffreda, Mansell

B: Rowland, Thompson, Seymour



R: Redden, Sinor, Tsitas

INT: Pudney, Lowson, Lee, Goldsoworthy, Jungfer, Comitogianni, Firns

IN: J. Hayes, Mansell, Jones, Firns, Goldsworthy, Lee

OUT: Hall (pectoral), West, Westbrook
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Post by Eagles35 Thu Oct 01, 2020 7:48 pm

Jones didn't participate in the NAB AFL draft combine yesterday cos of his ankle so does this mean he's not playing or is or still having trouble with it
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Post by wimpy Thu Oct 01, 2020 8:19 pm

Eagles35 wrote:Jones didn't participate in the NAB AFL draft combine yesterday cos of his ankle so does this mean he's not playing or is or still having trouble with it

Just precautionary. Trained extremely well last night. Did all tasks.
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Post by Eagles35 Thu Oct 01, 2020 8:27 pm

Thought I'd check
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Post by Aerie Thu Oct 01, 2020 8:29 pm

If it's going to be wet - they might opt for the bigger bodies of Firns and/or Lee?
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Post by Columbo Thu Oct 01, 2020 10:05 pm

Eagles35 wrote:Thought it was 3 games to qualify for reserves if so fish won't be playing and Heinjus haven't had him all season

Think as long as both A's and B's are going Fish will be fine, it gets tricky when its league players dropping back.
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Post by wimpy Fri Oct 02, 2020 8:36 am

Columbo wrote:
Eagles35 wrote:Thought it was 3 games to qualify for reserves if so fish won't be playing and Heinjus haven't had him all season

Think as long as both A's and B's are going Fish will be fine, it gets tricky when its league players dropping back.

I think Fish would be OK in all circumstances, he attends all trainings and has just had a long term injury. There is a special permit committee to consider different circumstances and I'm sure if the league weren't playing he would have been given a permit.
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